These notes were transcribed by Microsoft Word and corrected by Saskia Kennedy.

Good Hands For One Peer-to-Peer Tutoring: Fullerton community members and Fullerton City Council members. My name is Aaron Kim, and I am one of the current Vice Presidents of Good Hands for One. On behalf of Good Hands for One, I would like to sincerely thank the City of Fullerton, the City Council, and the Fullerton Public Library for supporting our program and allowing us to use the City Library as a tutoring space. Having a welcoming and reliable space every Saturday has made it possible for us to serve students and create confidence in growing academically.

To give a brief overview of our organization, Good Hands for One is a nonprofit tutoring organization founded in 2013 with the goal of creating equal learning opportunities for underprivileged youth. Alerts. Since then, we have provided free math tutoring to students in 2nd through 6th grade from Title I schools. Our program is run by dedicated middle and high school student volunteers who are passionate about giving back to their community. Today we have over 30 tutors. School students strengthen their math skills. Over the past several years, we have proudly served more than 100 students.

Good evening, mayor, City Council members, librarians, and everyone here tonight. My name is Christopher Kim, and I also serve as the vice president for Good Hands for One. Because of the support from the Fullerton Public Library, the City Council and the families who have entrusted us with their children, we have been able to witness incredible growth in our students’ math skills, confidence and enthusiasm for learning. We are truly grateful for these opportunities, for the opportunities your support has provided, and for allowing us to continue serving students in our community.

Currently, we hold our in-person tutoring sessions at the Fullerton Public Library every Saturday from 11:30 am to 1:00 pm. Our tutors work one-on-one with students to help them build a strong foundation in math. Moving forward, our organization hopes to continue to grow by recruiting new, passionate middle and high school student volunteers across the Fullerton area. By expanding our team, we aim to serve even more students and continue making academic support accessible to those who need it most. It has been an honor to introduce Good Hands for One to the Fullerton City Council and the community members of Fullerton. Thank you so much for your time and your support. We look forward to continuing to make a positive impact on the students and families of Fullerton. Thank you.

CSUF OLLI: Jim Apple: Good evening. I want to say something positive about the city of Fullerton. First of all, we have a great program for seniors. Fantastic program. I think it can change your life, and I also think it can, if it doesn’t change your life, certainly improve your life. The sad thing is we have this great program in Fullerton and a lot of people don’t know about it. And the sad thing also is it’s right down the street at Cal State Fullerton. So how do they not know about this great program for seniors at Cal State Fullerton right down the street? Well, the program’s called Ollie. It stands for the OSHA Lifelong Learning Institute. Some of you may know about it; some of you don’t know about it, but it’s a great program for seniors. 4 Reasons why it’s a Great program for seniors. First of all, we offer over 120 classes. You’re not going to find a program that does that. We offer classes in every imaginable field. We offer classes in Mahjong and ceramics. You want to learn a foreign language? Pick a language, and we teach it. You want to learn to play a musical instrument? Pick a musical instrument, and we’ll teach. How to play it. You want to learn how to play cribbage? You learn how to play cribbage. We have tons and tons of classes.

Second reason why it’s a great program. Based on my personal experience, when you retire. You basically have all your friends want to stay in touch with you. Good luck. Out of sight, out of mind. This is a great opportunity to meet new people and make new friends.

Third reason, it’s a great program. You have a chance to audit any class at Cal State Fullerton for free with the professor’s approval. That means if you want to take geology or anthropology, you can take it for free.

The fourth good reason to take the program is that you get 2 free tickets to every sporting event you want to go to. A baseball game? A basketball game! 2 free tickets!

Lastly, I’m here to tell you about our open house. It’s August 8 at 9 am. It’s at Cal State Fullerton. Come check it out. You know, free parking, free food, a chance to meet the faculty, a chance to find out about the classes and see if this program works for you. So if you’re a senior and you’re looking for something to do with your life, this is a great opportunity. It’s offered by Cal State Fullerton. It’s part of the city of Fullerton, and I’m proud to talk about it. Thank you.

Canceling City Council Meetings and Poor Leadership

Karen Lloreda, District 2: We have a pretty hefty agenda this evening with several items that require extensive presentation, discussion and debate. Looking forward, it appears that we can expect a few more heavily weighted agendas, so it confounds me as to why this Council repeatedly cancels scheduled meetings using the lack of issues, or worse, a lack of quorum, to avoid doing the city’s business. We all understand that each of you may need a vacation here and there. But when any three of you indicate you will not be available for the same meeting, your commitment to the job becomes questionable. We are questioning.

Given the numerous topics requiring the Council’s attention in the next few months, we feel you are obligated to disclose why you have now canceled additional meetings in August, and I believe also in September. Words are cheap. Transparency matters. Let us know what you’re doing. And I think we can say that tonight has made clear by events that have happened that the Fullertonians are watching and they are paying attention.

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Another Resident: Good evening, I want to address what the votes of Mayor Jung, Mayor Pro Tem Dunlap and Council Member Valencia have done to the process of City Council meetings in their vote to Council 4 meetings January 6th, July 7th, August 4th and September 1st. And there would have been one more scheduled had not Council Member Charles strongly objected; it was taken back, and the last-minute cancellation was the May 19th meeting.

What is happening tonight, and what has transpired over the last few weeks, is that very important issues are crammed into long meetings to get necessary city business accomplished. This is in no way criticism of staff, all of whom I respect highly for their time and efforts preparing and working beyond their work hours to get this done. None of this was necessary. How can staff, council members, the public, including me, be prepared to intelligently and responsibly understand, give feedback and vote when meetings are canceled, and then many special meetings are scheduled at 4:00 when most of the public cannot attend? It reinforces public participation and input. It does not matter when you waste precious staff time on the public by unnecessarily delaying decisions.

For example, waste hauler contract selections are required by state law, and the housing development. Under Builders Remedy at Harbor and Hermosa, you are not being transparent with everyone for your reasons. I am not prepared tonight as I should be because it was impossible to be prepared on such short notice with so many important issues on the agenda. It just indicates to me that you don’t care. You know what you’re going to vote for; you have the majority votes, and we are just coming along for the ride, as required by law that these decisions be made publicly. This. Is the reason why there is so much lack of trust in this of residence. That lack of trust is not unfair. Your actions and votes have created it. Now, when you need people to move forward on what is needed, this lack of trust will keep people from voting for what our city desperately needs. You caused this. Thank you.

Damage and Dereliction of Associated Road

Aaron Anthony Peral: I’m a resident of Fullerton who lives along Associated Rd, between Bastanchury Rd. and Imperial Highway. Tonight I have 3 concerns that all relate to responsible stewardship of taxpayers’ dollars.

First, I’m concerned about the condition of Associated Rd. The city approved and completed a major rehabilitation project only two years ago, yet today there are already significant Cracks and major potholes throughout the roadway. I respectfully request that the staff answer the following questions. Was this a full reconstruction or simply an asphalt overlay? Is the project still under contractor warranty? Has the city conducted post-construction inspections, and are our repairs already scheduled? What was the expected lifespan of this project?

Second, I’m concerned about the lack of routine maintenance along this same corridor, as someone who regularly walks this stretch of Associated Rd. I’ve personally observed weeds, overgrown vegetation, and trash remaining along this roadway for more than two months. The overgrown brush narrows portions of the sidewalk, creating difficulties for pedestrians, parents with strollers, and individuals with disabilities. Litter has also accumulated in the gutters and near storm drains under these conditions. This does not reflect the quality of maintenance that Fullerton residents expect. I have these photographs, which I will leave with you, that show the significant cracks and potholes in the litter that’s just been accumulating, and the weeds that have been overgrown along the way. You can see it in the pictures.

Finally, I recently paid $585 for a building permit to install a single replacement window in my home. Regardless of whatever our neighboring cities charge, I believe this fee is excessive for a small residential project. A homeowner replacing one window should not pay essentially the same permit fee as someone who is undertaking a much larger window project. I respectfully ask the Council to review the city’s residential permit fee structure and consider creating a more proportional Tiered fee schedule for smaller home improvement projects. Homeowners should be encouraged, not discouraged, to obtain permits and improve their homes within reason. Taxpayers deserve roads that last and neighborhoods that are properly maintained and fees that are fair.

Thank you for your time, and I respectfully request that the council direct staff to investigate these concerns and provide a public response at a future meeting. I do believe that North Fullerton 92835 is kind of a forgotten land. Come and visit us sometime, and I’ll leave this letter and all the photos of cracks and weeds.

Love and Trust in Fullerton City Council

Jane Rands. I live in what’s now District 5. Umm. I just wanted to point out. One of my neighbors came up here and said they wanted to be positive, and I’d like to be positive too. A couple of things: I wouldn’t be in District 5 with all the other downtown properties and homeowners and businesses if it wasn’t for Fred Jung correcting the map for our district elections. So I want to say thank you. The other thing is we’re saying thank you to our firefighters. We wouldn’t have those firefighters on our side, on our team, on our. On our city staff if it wasn’t for Fred Jung. I just, I want to set the record straight. So anyways, I am.

And Jamie, I’m sorry that you always get treated from day one, before you even said a word, in your first meeting, accused of not being able to think for yourself. And I’m sorry. I know that as a woman, that’s something you go through on a regular basis. And so stay strong. So I trust Shana, Jamie and Fred. Sorry. Nick, you did a great job getting the general housing plan through and leading that effort. I appreciate it. And Ahmad, all of you filled your roles, and I trust each of you to work through this difficult budget problem as you make decisions, and so carry on and do good work for us. Thank you.

Redwood Trees for Fallen Soldiers

Jensen Hallstrom: Good evening, Council and staff. I would like to provide an update on the Sequoia Memorial restoration at Hillcrest Park. The project, uh, was carried out by St. Tree Revival of WCA, and it seems to be nearly complete. Very glad to see that the memorial is now more structurally sound. A lot of the decayed and damaged portions of the wood of the monument, uh, have been filled with a resin. And now moving forward, I would like there to be a very, uh, careful and comprehensive plan for the replanting of the memorial Grove. That you know, however you look at it right now. There are 55 missing memorial trees in Hillcrest Park, and those are the 55 trees that were planted for each Fullerton resident who died in World War II. So the city, unfortunately, over the decades, has not held to the management standards that Redwood Grove requires in Southern California.

A lot of local agencies can handle Redwood Groves just fine. Everybody knows that OC Parks manages the Redwood Grove in, uh, Carbon Canyon Park, which is very popular. And that Grove is 241 trees large. This Grove is 55 trees large. Umm. I think that if staff is currently planning that project, before any work is done, there needs to be a community meeting to have this process be transparent. There are a lot of considerations to successfully designing a Redwood Grove in Southern California, especially with the soil conditions of an exposed hilltop such as the area where that Grove used to grow.

There was a Riverside landscape architect who, in 1996, had put together a report as part of the Hillcrest Park master plan, and he detailed the mismanagement of the surviving Redwood trees at that time, including soil compaction and aggressive, uh, invasive weeds such as, umm, uh, Ivy, which were crowding out the canopies of these trees. As I mentioned before, the last one, the last tree, died. 2015. And even after then, at least some stumps were left of them. But even just a few years ago, those stumps were all completely ground up for no reason. They were not in any walkway or a trip hazard. So this Grove has really been disrespected, and I want there to be a public, transparent process in replanting it. Thank you.

Recall of Mayor Fred Jung and Council Member Jamie Valencia

Elijah Manassero: For those who don’t know, both Fred Jung and Jamie Valencia were just served notice of intentions to recall. And I’m here to speak in support of recalling both of you. For Fred specifically. The main reason why I support recalling you is very simple. I don’t trust you with my tax dollars, and I don’t think that anyone should. Within the first few months of you being elected, you fired our city manager, the head of the entire city. And staff left in a mass exodus. They left in droves, and I’ve spoken with some of these staff members, and they explained why they left, and it was because of the toxic environment that you created. And I can just say what I’ve seen at City Council with all the public looking at you; it’s very toxic. So I can’t even imagine what it’s like behind closed doors.

After they left, though, the reason why that matters is that. After they left, we couldn’t stop people from leaving, and we couldn’t get people to come here and work. So you kind of put yourself in a pickle where now the only way to get anybody to work for the city of Fullerton is to give raises that we don’t have the money to support. That was a situation created by you, this budget situation. You say it’s your fault, and you’re right, it is your fault. You created this situation because you fired a city manager and you never told anybody why. Fired without cause. We went through four city managers in one year. I just want to say that at least one Lieutenant 1 corporal may be cut tonight. Our deputy fire Marshall may be cut tonight. HR likely won’t have a director. And this is all a result of your decisions and your toxicity. So you have made this city an embarrassment, and if you have any honor, you will resign and allow us to move forward with a clean slate. Thank you.

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Another Resident: It gives me no pleasure in delivering my comments tonight. I’ve been attending City Council meetings since 2002. This will be a first for me. I support the recall of Mayor Fred Jung for multiple reasons. I’ll share 2 of at least five reasons that have greatly disturbed me. We need to trust our elected officials. Mayor Jung lied to us. Thereby denigrating that trust. He misrepresented himself on his ballot statement, proclaiming himself as a business owner. For a business the court could not establish as existing. And lying about turning around a $9 million deficit into a balanced budget. Mayor Jung has often conducted himself in a non-professional manner. Toward fellow City Council members, promoting A non-collaborative, corrosive atmosphere. It shouldn’t have come to this point. You’ve been mayor four times. And bypassing District 5 Council Member Zahra. This is totally unfair. You brought this on yourself.

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Marcy Fry, District 2: I’m going to start a little differently. You can always tell a skilled teacher when a really skilled teacher is leading her classroom. She sets a positive tone. She’s respectful. She values opinions. She collaborates. She promotes teamwork. She’s forward-thinking; she thinks ahead of what skills the kids are going to need, and she plans ahead to make sure that they get those. She’s ethical and fair, trustworthy, and opportunities are shared among students. They’re not just taken with one or two students. She’s also respectful to the staff and treats people, sharing responsibilities and accountability with other teachers and the district when this happens; if you visualize a triangle. The students, that solid base, the students have nowhere to go but up. And everybody’s happy. The parents are happy, the students are happy, the principal’s happy because she’s not getting complaints, and the district is happy because they’re not getting complaints.

So Mayor Jung, it’s the same with the mayor. It’s your job, or whoever’s mayor, to set the tone. It’s the same components that are needed for good leadership and a positive outcome. And we all know how that’s been the last five years. It’s not really working. And that’s why I support the recall. Yes, it’s expensive, but we can’t afford to let this go on. The council majority is not going to be able to fix our city. The problem is, as much as it is the budget, we’ve got to get more revenue, and we don’t have a forward-thinking team right now. That has the vision to do it, and we’re losing one of them. Ahmad, who is a wonderful visionary, has been pushed out ridiculously. We can’t allow this to continue because I don’t know how much more damage will be done if the leadership doesn’t change and the majority continues to control our city. Unfortunately, Valencia just votes however Fred tells her, and she was recruited by Fred’s donor to give Fred more power for the donor or in a budget crisis. I envision a wonderful, positive, collaborative, forward-thinking Council. Thank you

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Another Resident: At the start, I’d like to mention the importance of vision when it comes to running everything, but especially something as large and all-encompassing as a city that IT services touch every aspect of its residents’ lives. Vision. It is one of the most important things you can have as a leader. Vision is your North Star. Vision is what informs your decisions and how you interact with your constituents. It informs the goals; it informs your budgets. It informs every aspect of running the city. We need vision. Our city has so much potential. But we have suffered from a lack of vision in our leadership for so long, or rather, I should say. We have suffered from. A lack of vision oriented toward the support of the residents of Fullerton for too long. I believe that this council majority, uh, council members Jung, Valencia, Dunlap and Whitaker, before Valentia. Suffered from a vision that predominantly upheld the needs of campaign donors. And people whom they could do favors for, but not the constituents of our city. And that is a tragedy. Because this city has so much potential; this is an amazing city.

This is a unique city. This is a city that has so many gifts, and if we simply have a vision to uphold them. If we manifest those gifts, our city could be great, but instead these council members have taken it in the opposite direction and have degraded our city. I believe that we can get our city back. I believe that our city can live to its full potential with the right leadership. And so I support the recall that was announced. I think we need to change the direction of our city, and I think we need leaders who have vision. I think this recall is symptomatic of the fact that the residents of Fullerton have tried desperately to get the attention of our elected leaders and ask them to lead. The way that we want them to, and to make the decisions that we want them to make on our behalf because we elected them to the positions that they hold and they serve to our pleasure. And yet. That hasn’t been happening. A recall is the last option available in the democratic process to the residents of this city. And if that’s what it takes for us to get our city made in the vision that we see fit, so be it. Thank you.

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Another Resident: First off, I want to start this off on a positive note to the fire department and the Police Department, city management and the council members that did reach out to me before the parade, including Dunlap, Charles and Zahra. Thank you for reaching out to me for the bike parade. Thank you for your support of the bike parade. Thank you, Steven, for your support. And we had a very successful bike parade. Again, that is what this city is about. This city is about community. You want to listen to this community, and that is the reason you’re facing a recall, Fred. And that is the reason I support this recall. We have tried over the years, Fred. How many times have I been up here and told you No, we don’t want you to be the mayor, Fred. We want to have Mayor Zahra. We have not had representation in District 5, one of the most important districts in this entire city. It encompasses your downtown. It encompasses all of your businesses in the heart and soul of this city. Yes, big businesses do us well, but the mom-and-pop restaurants are the heart and soul of this city. And if you would only listen to us along the way and not decide that you had the best ideas, you would not be sitting in this position. So I fully support this recall, and there’s no other way. I mean, it is a bad option. We don’t want to have to spend the money on a recall. It’s not something this city can afford. Thanks to you.

Because of other bad decisions that were made, it’s not something this city can support. In all reality, Fred, if you love this city, if you honestly think you want the best for this city, you would do what was right and step down and not have to force this recall, Fred, because what good is it doing you? You’re serving the needs of a few residents, not the constituents of this city, this Valencia. I hate to say it, but you’re the same way. All you’ve done is voted with Fred on everything he’s ever had. What do you know about this city, Miss? If you come out to the parade, I haven’t seen you support. I’ve seen every other council member in this chamber at an event. Where are you? Why aren’t you supporting the city? Why are you listening to one or two donors when the rest of us all support this city? The city is a great city with many opportunities. Without you 2 on this, maybe we’ll have more opportunities. Thank you very much.

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Nan Harold, District 4: Hearing about this recall, I just want to say that I do support the recall of both Mayor Jung and Council Member Jamie Valencia, and it’s not because of decisions that you guys have made. I don’t agree with a lot of the decisions that Dunlap made. In fact, I think the last four times I’ve come up to speak, he’s literally left the room. So that tells you a bit. But I still respect him. I believe that Dunlap does what’s best for the city. And there may be people that disagree with me on that, but I truly believe that he is coming from a place of having his district’s best interests. On the other hand, for you too, Mayor Jung, my impression is that, like, I don’t feel like I can trust you with any of the decisions that are made. Council Member Valencia, I wanted to trust you when you first got elected, but time and time again you have shown me that you were incompetent, and so there’s been plenty said about Mayor Jung already. So just to go on some of the reasons why I would support a recall against my council member Valencia: first of all, you really don’t listen to your constituents. There were 68 minutes of public comment begging the Council not to elect Mayor Jung mayor again. And right after that ended, you immediately nominated him. You dismissed all of those comments made by the public. Second, there was a member of the public who? Spoke out against Mayor Jung, and you responded by accusing that person of being racist. So when another member of the public posted the transcript of that comment to demonstrate that there was no racist content whatsoever, you then blocked that person, which is a violation of that person’s First Amendment rights, and you potentially exposed the city to a lawsuit on that matter.

Lastly, I’ve spoken many times about my desire for immigrant support, and dozens of your other constituents have come forward to ask you for the city’s support. Not only did you not provide that support, but you also weren’t even willing to approve a statement of values affirming the city’s commitment to public safety and inclusivity. And I have to imagine that’s because Fred Jung specifically said during that meeting that he would not support that. So it’s clear to me that you do not support your constituents; you do not work for your constituents. And for that reason, umm, I know that having a recall, as Tim said, is going to be an expense for the city that we cannot afford right now. And I cringe when I think about the cost that this is going to incur in our city. But. The way that I see it, the two of you have created irreparable damage in the city through your actions, and allowing you to stay in office is only going to cause further harm. Thank you.

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Call-in user: Dominic Moonhart, former District 3 resident: I am absolutely stoked that there is going to be a recall on Council Member Valencia, as I was one of the first to call to have her, or to ask for her to be resigned, and she didn’t do it. So there it is. And then Fred. Oh, that just makes it better because again, you, I mean, you lost your supervisor in 4th place. I mean, I can’t help it, but you are a loser. So there it is. So the fire and police, we absolutely support you. These are our heroes. And I’m sorry that we’re going through this right now. So, Fred, enjoy your supervisorial race song and Connor Trout for supervisor, Katrina Foley for supervisor and recall, Jamie Valencia and Fred Jung. Thank you.

Fullerton Updates Its Code Book to Reflect Overhaul of the Homeless Shelter Ordinance

Curtis Gamble: I’m an activist for our veterans, Cal State Fullerton students, OCTA bus drivers, our seniors and our low-income community. And these are just some of my recommendations. I want to thank Saskia Kennedy for writing this article today is a very important article, and I want you to go online and check it out. The title of it is “Fullerton Updates Its Code Book to Reflect Overhaul of the Homeless Shelter Ordinance.” And this is a municipal code booklet. I think they call it now the code of ordinances, uh, but it’s the same thing. It’s a really big, big book, and it’s a reference book that’s in the library, so you can go there and use it also. And it was also given to about 10 different departments, uh, probably just a couple of weeks ago. So this is how our city should be run. I’m a military veteran, and that’s what we do. We go by the code of standards. And I noticed that for the last few years we haven’t been doing that. That booklet hasn’t been updated since. I don’t think it really ever has been updated. It has just been patchwork put in there. So really it means that we weren’t really following it. We were just making up our own rules as we went along. Now the book is updated. And we’re going to need good leadership to follow this book.

I’d like to thank everybody who had something to do with updating it, which was the city clerk’s office and almost just about everybody, you know, they contributed, and they put up with me coming back and forth, you know, asking a lot of questions. And even when we approved this, the mayor, very young, I think he only said a couple of words about the book. It wasn’t that important, which led me to know he really didn’t want to run the city the way we wanted to run it. This code booklet is the state laws, federal law, and city ordinances, and the ordinance is often what we put in our input. And so the city hasn’t been run that way in quite some time. So I just want to keep moving with the positive things. And if that means getting rid of a couple of City Council members, that’s fine with me. Whatever it takes to win. If you don’t want to do your job, you just don’t want to do it; we can’t make you do it, but we hate to see you go. OK, no, we don’t, but I’m just trying to be nice. I just like to say that the city of Fullerton is a great place, and we need to keep everything moving on. The one thing that upset me the most is that we didn’t let Zahra be the mayor, and I hate somebody telling us what we can and cannot do. Our mayoral position should always be on a rotating basis.

Blessed to have Firefighters and Police

Z: I became familiar with the city when I relocated here in 1978, ironically the same year that the Fullerton Observer was started. I want to thank Fred Jung for correcting me last Tuesday, July 14th, when I stated in error that I was here in the chamber two years ago when the Fullerton Fire Department was here, uh, in Mass, many with their spouses advocating for Orange County Fire Authority to take over the fire department. Fred. Fred corrected me, saying the meeting took place five years ago. Thank you. I appreciate that. But upon research, that took place in the fall of 2022. The fall of 2023 would be one year. The fall of 2024 would be two years. The fall of 2025 would be 3 years. This is the summer of 26. We’re not every four years yet, much less the five years you corrected me with. So we were both wrong, but I appreciate you wanting to correct me in front of the public, as you did with your budget-balancing ideas. When the Council majority Votes to approve a late A lease into the 2000s forties. At a huge reduction for a major donor to their campaigns. Don’t turn around and come to the rest of the citizens of this city. And ask us to put up a half cent. To take care of poor lease agreements that the majority has made, that’s not fair. Give a guy a break. You put that weight on every citizen in here, OK, I don’t fall for that. It’s not a good idea.

To the fireman. And to the police. We are blessed to have you serve our city, and we have two great leaders in our police chief and our Fire Chief, and we should be thankful we’ve held on to them. And then I also want to say. Thank you to Fred Jung for taking the blame for the budget. However, I don’t believe it was the fault of one person. I don’t believe that is very manly of you to do that, but it was not the fault. However, what I did want to ask you about is I just looked up the results of the county supervisor and, umm. Trout finished first, Shaw finished second, Espinoza third. You were 4th. I hope you’ve asked for a recount because, as smart as you are, and with the money you raised and your USC Trojan degree, I just can’t understand how you could finish 4th. So if you haven’t asked for a recall, could you explain that to us: how you finished last in a four-person race with all the money you had? Because I can’t explain it. I’ve been around you for 3 1/2 years, and you were sharp, cookie. God bless you all. Go Titans, go Hornets, go Cougars and go Lancers.